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Possible SAG Strike and Comic Con

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vdovault who made a links post about people's thoughts on how a SAG strike might impact Comic Con.

So, this has been on and off my mind since the WGA strike. How would a strike effect Comic Con? I don't know anything about the legalities of the contracts, but if there is a SAG strike, it doesn't seem realistic to me that SAG would let actors promote shows and movies made by the studios they are striking against. Now, I don't think this would actually mean there wouldn't be a panel for a show or a movie, but those panels wouldn't have any of the actors there. Which...okay, honestly, part of me has a morbid curiosity how this would effect Comic Con as a whole. As Frosty of Collider points out, it wouldn't impact ticket sales, as 4 Day passes are already sold out and Saturday tickets are sold out. I've been to the Comic Con of old, when most of the panels going on were comic studio related. There were fewer people and there was a lot of breathing space. It was really nice. That was in the day when I went to Con strictly to pick up cool merchandise that I couldn't get anywhere else and comics at dirt cheap prices. I've fallen for the love affair that Comic Con has with Hollywood, as the last couple of years I've been going to Comic Con to see a panel for a specific show and actors. It's not about the comics so much for me anymore.

Many people are in this boat with me and I really don't want to see them disappointed if things don't go as they had previously planned.

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I know Tammy will be very unhappy but it's still San Diego right on the Pacific Ocean.
OG would still be there for REST.
I'm just happy to be there and celebrate my birthday with some of the DSC and some of the peeps from LJ.

It'll still be very, very fun. I promise. There's still so much that can be explored and enjoyed. I'll help in showing all of you a good time and what Comic Con has to offer. :D

OG would still be there for REST.

I had thought about that, too! I'm really looking forward to REST and seeing Sale's work on the first ish.

Whee! Yes! :D That's going to terrific!

Los Angeles, June 24, 2008 — Screen Actors Guild national negotiating committee met with the employers at the AMPTP headquarters in Sherman Oaks today. We have concluded for the day and will resume at 10 a.m. On Wednesday.

We have no further comment.

This is good. They are talking.

I do wonder if SAG would do some kind of waver, like with the SAG awards. I mean if really wouldn't be fair to all those people who paid. BUT, its a long way from June 30th and perhaps it will all be a distant memory by that time.

The WGA strike was devastating for actors, just awful. Agents wouldn't even take meetings with people - not to mention all the non actors out of work.

I like to think SAG will do everything possible to avoid this, because of what happened, perhaps even working with out a contract - at least to see how AFTRA votes in July - which seems to be what SAG is waiting for.

And as much as I think its a terrible thing to do - meaning encouraging people to vote against the AFTRA deal. And I just read it and it is a terrible deal - in regarding "new media" - which as an actor is most important to me.

In the end, I like to think its a lot of talk to get leverage from the producers, because a strike, right now, would be awful. As Tom Hanks said, "You will be hijacking this town"

The rumor is a vote to strike will never pass, besides taking a while after the 30th to have all the members vote, unless they find a reason not to get a vote from members, which I hear could be possible also. I know, because of the WGA strike, as much as it pains me because consent of clips and no more non-union new media is important to me - I would have to vote no to a strike - and I think most people will too.

But I really am NOT in the loop at all. Just my feelings.

Better than not talking. *nod* I wonder how today is going for them. I heard about the possibility of a waver from someone else, too. But it would have to be something in SAG's interest too, right?

A very long way off from June 30th. I heard there was a possibility that people might still be working without a contract. Somewhere I read that WGA actually went TWO YEARS without a new contract? I don't see this happening with SAG, though. SAG seems more intent on the contract to me.

The WGA strike decimated the industry, especially for the under the line people. Tons of money lost and a severe drop in viewship that hasn't come back yet. And then there are those industries that you might not think about, like caterers and dry cleaning businesses that took heavy hits too. Gah. I wish I was more up on this information.

I hope you're right about SAG working to avoid a strike. They just seem to be holding out a lot longer than they should, especially with AFTRA getting their tentative deal. Ahh, okay. When is the AFTRA vote?

I've heard conflicting reports on the AFTRA deal. Some say it is bad and some say it is as good as they're going to get. AFTRA wasn't interested in the new media very much, right? I thought I had heard that.

I heard the same rumor, too. I also heard that it's a 50/50 chance of there being a strike, too. Everything is up in the air right now.

I really appreciate getting your opinion. You can offer an inside perspective. :D Thank you!

Your just so kind Jen, so refreshing. :) Anyway, I think the AFTRA deal is good depending on what is important to you. As an unknown actor with out an agent, consent of clips and new media is important to me. Most things on the internet is non union, which means all that work isn't open to me. And as an unknown with out representations its very easy for to get auditions for such things -- and there is so much of it. A friend of mine has a website with little funny videos and I can't be in any of them. And I feel someone could take advantage of my image online with out ardent rules and that worries me.

I think compromise is a very important thing, but I do think this is a different world because of the writers strike. That needs to be taken into consideration. If that hadn't happened it would be a whole different ballgame. I do hope they know that, but the people who run SAG have some money in the bank so perhaps they will will forget. I'm big on standing firm on one's principles, but sometimes you have to make hard choices for the greater good of the the many vs the few.

OMG, I sound like Arthur Petrelli. lol.

:D I try to be kind whenever possible.

That makes perfect sense about the AFTRA deal. I had no idea that there's only about ten AFTRA shows out there. All the rest are SAG. But there's a few thousand actors who are both SAG and AFTRA, I think.

Who is the AFTRA deal designed for? What sort of actor? Yipes! That's not good. The new media could open doors for you, get you out there. It is easy to get auditions without representation? I've always heard the opposite. Maybe that's on this coast. You should have say over how your image is used. I know California has laws like that. A friend of mine wanted to sell fan art for charity, but we couldn't depict the actors, or the characters. Eventually, we scraped the whole thing because it just wouldn't work! Those laws don't extend to online, though, do they?

It's a very different world. I don't think we know the full ramifications. The strike only ended four months ago.

They should be thinking of the needs of the many outside the needs of the few. But the few are the ones who bring in the big bucks.

LOL I'm not surprised. :D

It says: We will be negotiating a fair contract for you 24/7.

Okay,I am attemping italics, I hope it works. I keep reversing the / -

That makes perfect sense about the AFTRA deal. I had no idea that there's only about ten AFTRA shows out there. All the rest are SAG. But there's a few thousand actors who are both SAG and AFTRA, I think.

AFTRA is easy to join. You walk up and pay, no credits no nothing. Most actors, I know, don't join AFTRA unless they have to because you can do the work as SAG. I have worked SAG at an AFTRA rate as an extra on shows that are really AFTRA. Paying another union I don't have to join, there seems no point. Everyone else join, just to join and are usually green, young, actors who think joining a union will help them. It really doesn't.

Who is the AFTRA deal designed for? What sort of actor? Yipes! That's not good. The new media could open doors for you, get you out there. It is easy to get auditions without representation?

For film and high paying theater, no its very difficult, but the internet is so new - there are so many people out there doing things - so if it was union it would open more doors. Did that make sense? So, what I'm saying is, You are correct, both coasts.

What happens when something new comes out is the laws just don't follow over. That is why these contracts are so important, its an important time for the WGA and SAG. New media is like being in the wild west - and it needs to be policed. I read an article about an actress (and this was a long time ago) whose image was used on line for a lewd video game to promote her movie. And she knew once it happened there was nothing she could do about it.

They should be thinking of the needs of the many outside the needs of the few. But the few are the ones who bring in the big bucks.

Yeah, I'm afraid they are forgetting about the little people.

OMG the italics worked... well for now.

Please, I don't want the SAG to strike. I have invested a lot of time and effort into this vacation. I will cry if SAG strikes next Tuesday. It'll be on my mind not seeing Milo Adrian Zach or Hayden. My parents will probably attempt to change my mind about the trip and then everyone else's vacation will be ruined since I have roommates. I have read articles saying they will strike and some saying that they aren't striking. I want to hang out, but is it worth the plane ticket and hotel if SAG strikes.

You can still hang out with DSC people and plan extra tourist events even if you don't go to comic con because your people aren't there.

Milo's likely to still be there for Rest ,though.

It definitely worth the plane ticket and hotel. To be there? Oh yeah. It'll be worth it. There's gonna be DSC fun!

From all I've been hearing, the strike is unlikely, so hopefully you won't have to worry about it.

I've heard that and the later. I don't think anybody really knows yet. But it looks like SAG is a least serious about getting a contract made.

I do, honestly, think a lot of it is the media striking fear in people's hearts, but then I also wonder if I'm clouded by the fact that a strike would be just kill me - I need my TV shows right now. :)

If this was any other time, but four months after the WGA strike I think it would be a whole new ballgame. Or I'm in denial.

Found a good article with updates that make sense to read:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080627/media_nm/actors_hollywood_dc;_ylt=AtsrC.HpOf01q8JD5zFbBGhxFb8C

Looks like most people think there will be an extension, which I figured since AFTRA doesn't finish voting until July 8th or something and SAG will want to know what happens before they make their next move, but talks are on going, which is good.

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