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I decided to start S4 (never having seen S1-S3 except a few eps here and there) because I want to be educated on the latest happenings before I go to a SPN convention with my friend [livejournal.com profile] brokenbacktango.

I have to admit that the first five minutes of ep 4.01, with the catch up and Dean coming out of his grave, was better than any of the Heroes eps I've seen in a long time. This show runs so smooth. Stuff happens. People die. I imagine if your profession is hunter and people don't die, then something is clearly wrong.

Things really don't feel contrived. And I really hate to say this, but I am wondering if Heroes is written for someone who doesn't want to think about their Scifi but be spoon fed it because they don't have the brains to get it/don't want to think that much to get it.

Supernatural is cool because it makes both Star Trek and Star Wars references, even coming from Dean, and even after he came back from Hell. And how about his line about going to Hell again because he thought his mom was hot? LOL I liked the one about having to go to the Star Trek Experience because of the impending Apocalypse. Hate to break it to you, Dean, but the Star Trek Experience's last day at the Hilton was Sept. 1st, 2008, a month before you came back from the grave. :(

I am also delighted that there is incest, and it's not just in the subtext way. It's in the "we know what you're saying and we know that you know we know what you're saying" way. Ruby with her "are you two together?" comment and then, the big one, The yellow-eyed demon, who had just murdered Deanna (I love that the grandparents' names!), made Samuel stab himself, and then killed John Winchester, and then had Mary give up herself and Sam, started making out with her while he was in her father's body! Dood! That's some hardcore stuff there. Makes me wish we had some making out between Sylar!Nathan and Angela on Heroes. Because levels of fucked up when they do not involve blonde cheerleaders who are pretty much used as pieces of meat are kinda cool. Damn. I feel a little bad that part of my enjoyment from watching SPN is judging Heroes for the bad path it has been made to go on, but it's fun.

I hadn't realized that Ben Edlund is a staff writer for SPN. That is part of the coolness factor. I have adored his writing since The Tick. And then on Angel he did the awesome Smile Time. Guy has been around and knows how to mix humor with drama. This is good crack. I was watching an episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer with my parents the other day and told them that you don't get shows like that anymore. I think in Supernatural I am proven wrong. You get a good mix of (meta?)humor, drama, good pacing, character development, all the stuff that makes me really dig a show. I have avoided SPN so far because my mom is uncomfortable with the subject matter. But being how I am watching the show on my comp, she doesn't have to see it. I knew the boys are pretty, but the quality of the show goes well beyond that.

To be honest, I've wanted to know what the whole thing with Castiel was about for a while. Both character and actor seem to be beloved. I also am really digging Angels right now, so seeing him is really cool for that.

I'll post more as I go through the series. I hope the rest of S4 and S5 hold up

Date: 2010-01-15 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whisper99.livejournal.com
OMG I am SO excited you're watching SHOW!!!!!!!!!! *bounces around like a loon!* You're gonna love it! You are!! :)

Date: 2010-01-15 09:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] claudiasharon.livejournal.com
Hehe, I used to watch Supernatural, but I stopped because I lost interest. My dad still watches it though.

Date: 2010-01-15 10:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gloriatempest.livejournal.com
I've recently gotten into this show too. Sometimes I think it has gotten way out there, but then at the same time, I think the new stuff has its own appeal and stands on its own. I liked it ok during season one; but from season two out, it has completely absorbed my attention.
Edited Date: 2010-01-15 10:05 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-01-15 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ev-vy.livejournal.com
I think the rest holds up, but I might not be too objective. *g* May I ask to which convention are you going?

Date: 2010-01-16 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mwmm23.livejournal.com
I got into Supernatural a couple months ago, having sort of thought it wouldn't be that good/at least wasn't my type of thing for years, and it way, WAY surpassed my expectations! So I'm glad you're enjoying it. :D

d'oh

Date: 2010-01-16 05:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brokenbacktango.livejournal.com
I am so relieved you're enjoying it! To be honest, when I moved on from Heroes to Merlin, I was making crazy comparisons between the two as well. It's the nature of a beast as mightily fucked up as Heroes; it leaves a mark! As for Supernatural, I honestly don't think enough credit is given to the show considering how good it is. Of course it has its problems but beyond that, the writing is pretty damn solid.

If I may ask, what is it about the show that makes your mom uncomfortable? Is it the way the angels are portrayed? My mom can't stand it because she hates Jensen Ackles. He makes her skin crawl.

Have you seen this new Profit music video?
Edited Date: 2010-01-16 05:34 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-01-16 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] autumndandelion.livejournal.com
I will have to read under the cut once I get caught up. I've just finished season three.

Date: 2010-01-16 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ewanspotter.livejournal.com
Man, if you DO ever go back to the first three seasons, you're gonna be all, "WTF?" Season four zoomed off in another direction. (I mean that in a good way.)

It takes them a bit in the first season to really get the feel for the show. It's very monster-of-the-week and stand alone. It's not until about episode nine, "Home", where the showrunners went, "Wait, so we can have a monster AND parallel the boy's story with this? SWEETNESS."

Edlund was a consulting producer (or some title like that) for a while but didn't start writing until season two. His second episode (the first was okay, but the second is what he's really known for) is classic SPN (if there is such a thing as classic SPN). Good stood, characters you care about, and kickass use of Styx.

Date: 2010-01-16 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninkasa.livejournal.com
I've mentioned this before, but Cas is the reason I slammed through S3 in one day and then marathoned the hell out of S4 (which we're about to re-watch as soon as [livejournal.com profile] ghosthunter_d gets home).

Um. . .yeah, everything I've had to say I've said already, but YAYS! Someone else who's just getting into it. I don't feel so alone now. =)

Date: 2010-01-17 06:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thelackey.livejournal.com
Oh, man. I'm so glad you've watched and liked. I will agree with a couple of people here, when you get a chance you do have to watch the first three seasons. I've got them all on DVD, so whenever you want to borrow them, just say the word. :)

I'll be hitting the convention as well. I think we're only going on the Sunday though - Jensen & Jared's day. Although, I do love me some Misha, so the day he's there, we might have to hit as well. Hopefully we'll see each other.

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